tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3294578188079385391.post2565307243864707919..comments2023-11-02T07:27:27.778-04:00Comments on Notes From My Corner: How much? And who? And do we care?Emhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14063254538593495040noreply@blogger.comBlogger38125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3294578188079385391.post-73839493392090640282007-03-21T22:27:00.000-04:002007-03-21T22:27:00.000-04:00I remeber once when I was a kid - the church bough...I remeber once when I was a kid - the church bought my parents a washer and dryer for Christmas (my dad was the preacher) and several people got mad and left the church over it because they felt that it was to much money to spend on them. <BR/><BR/>Keep in mind these people had six kids and a church full of people that they cared for and gave money to - they just didnt tell people when they gave money to folks ...<BR/><BR/>Yep money does funny things to people.Baron Ectarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04760739007831461896noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3294578188079385391.post-34559343723576896302007-03-10T11:40:00.000-05:002007-03-10T11:40:00.000-05:00That is a tough one. Our church is in a similar s...That is a tough one. Our church is in a similar situation. We're launching a new campaign for a student ministry building which will be bigger than the kids ministry building we're currently meeting in. Evenually we'll build our worship center, but that's about twice as much as the student ministry building so we're starting with that. Okay. That's way more information than you needed.<BR/><BR/>What I was going to say is that it's wonderful there are people who have thousands upon thousands of dollars to give. But are they giving FOR the recognition or is it solely to further God's kingdom.<BR/><BR/>I wish I had $100,000 to give to our new church building, but I wouldn't want others to know.<BR/><BR/>Not that any of my opinions matter because A) it's not my church; and B) your decisions have already been made. LOL<BR/><BR/>Just feeling like publicly opining, I guess. :o)Jensterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15639970448069931471noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3294578188079385391.post-45321648522814205532007-03-10T08:12:00.000-05:002007-03-10T08:12:00.000-05:00I'm with whimsicalnbrainpan: true charity seeks no...I'm with whimsicalnbrainpan: true charity seeks no reward or recognition.<BR/><BR/>Best of luck dealing with all those who do. You're a better man than I am. (Even though I'm a woman.)Ruth Dynamitehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06161626814106717754noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3294578188079385391.post-84611957686465212612007-03-09T00:48:00.000-05:002007-03-09T00:48:00.000-05:00Yeah that's a hard one. You can't make everyone ha...Yeah that's a hard one. <BR/><BR/>You can't make everyone happy. But, I'm sure you know that. <BR/><BR/>Personaly, for a church. I don't think it should matter how much you give. There should only be two boats those who give and those who don't. <BR/><BR/>Not like you are building a new NFL stadium or something like that. It is a Church.Joshuahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08522068241494464075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3294578188079385391.post-61240231391930224502007-03-08T23:44:00.000-05:002007-03-08T23:44:00.000-05:00Money is the root of all evil... unfortunately we ...Money is the root of all evil... unfortunately we need it for everything!ZZZZZZZhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03138083815199638165noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3294578188079385391.post-73012609403076661262007-03-08T13:43:00.000-05:002007-03-08T13:43:00.000-05:00Church fundraising is so tricky. We had a 5 millio...Church fundraising is so tricky. We had a 5 million dollar redo on our ancient cathedral in the past few years and it has really placed a toll on parishioner/diocesan relations. And what you spoke of regarding gifts of time and talent being pitted against gifts of treasure is so true. It doesn't seem as if the gifts NOT of money carry much weight in precisely the place where Jesus would have them be heavy. Can I get a witness?Livhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09154719979114564561noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3294578188079385391.post-69243653315518332212007-03-08T07:54:00.000-05:002007-03-08T07:54:00.000-05:00First time visitor here... but I know from whence ...First time visitor here... but I know from whence you speak.<BR/><BR/>We have similar issues inour church.Gunfighterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05762432006297768871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3294578188079385391.post-25856338674204314592007-03-07T23:37:00.000-05:002007-03-07T23:37:00.000-05:00I always thought we were supposed to do good deeds...I always thought we were supposed to do good deeds just because it was the right thing to do....not to get some kind of recognition. That doesn't mesh with the Christian values I was taught. But as you and so many others said....money does funny things to people.<BR/><BR/>I wonder if these people realize that God isn't keeping a score card.Michellehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02907925774829898653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3294578188079385391.post-13997454546877743342007-03-07T12:52:00.000-05:002007-03-07T12:52:00.000-05:00I don't like money... it just complicates things t...I don't like money... it just complicates things too much.<BR/><BR/>-velvetvelvethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14809107667582647222noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3294578188079385391.post-45998609674856630382007-03-07T05:05:00.000-05:002007-03-07T05:05:00.000-05:00Sorry to admitt it but i'm afraid it's all about t...Sorry to admitt it but i'm afraid it's all about the money.<BR/><BR/>But then again, if money is root of all evil, I'm on my way to sainthood... ;)<BR/><BR/>Cheers!Crashdummiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02804365044559167907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3294578188079385391.post-67781520217409699482007-03-07T02:17:00.000-05:002007-03-07T02:17:00.000-05:00I wouldn't try to please everybody - it'll never h...I wouldn't try to please everybody - it'll never happen.<BR/><BR/>I vote for the alphabetical order. If they want to be up higher, then they'll have to change their name.Creative-Type Dadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13594687030412942701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3294578188079385391.post-6990819595125012842007-03-06T21:47:00.000-05:002007-03-06T21:47:00.000-05:00ooh, man, religion AND money both at the same time...ooh, man, religion AND money both at the same time! Both touchy subjects....<BR/><BR/>My opinion is this....the $$$ givers should have their name on a plaque IF THEY WANT IT, but no dollar amount...that should be between them and God, not the whole church.<BR/><BR/>givers of "time and talent" should also be on the plaque, if that's what they choose. I don't think there should be a difference between who gave money and who didn't.<BR/><BR/>Giving is giving, and God loves both.Angelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06245554563405436101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3294578188079385391.post-50264482931881438212007-03-06T20:37:00.000-05:002007-03-06T20:37:00.000-05:00Maybe people who give a certian amount could be gi...Maybe people who give a certian amount could be given crowns to wear in church, and the amount level would be indicated by the numbers of jewels in the crown? Just a thought. I'm with listing donors alphabetically, too. Because not only am I uncomfortable with the overt recognition of the big donors, but there is almost a shaming element for those who can't afford to give as much. At our Meeting, ther is no pledging, you just give as you feel lead, stuffing cash or check into a little wooden box outside the Meeting room, so it's very non-public. Then if a need arises for money (water heater has to be replaced or there's a family who needs assistance or whatever), that need is just announced and again poeple give anonymously. I like that system.CShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12136201152682543365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3294578188079385391.post-66026972578711897922007-03-05T21:48:00.000-05:002007-03-05T21:48:00.000-05:00If only life weren't governed by the almighty doll...If only life weren't governed by the almighty dollar. If only altruism in its most simple, elemental form could fuel community-minded endeavors like yours.<BR/><BR/>It's interesting, because we're fundraising for a new building for our children's very small elementary school. I almost feel as if our meetings could be interchanged!carmilevyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00360045114379957605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3294578188079385391.post-7487924531151286092007-03-05T20:16:00.000-05:002007-03-05T20:16:00.000-05:00I think that giving is giving no matter how much i...I think that giving is giving no matter how much is behind it. And, each person deserves to be recognized equally because some, as you pointed out, just don't have as much to give, not because they don't want to, but because they can't.thethinkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02246687154473607332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3294578188079385391.post-54768542012111790572007-03-05T15:27:00.000-05:002007-03-05T15:27:00.000-05:00In my real life I'm a nonprofit consultant and I d...In my real life I'm a nonprofit consultant and I design tiered recognition for donors frequently. It's quite a standard practice and there are many norms. I'm sure a nonprofit consultant in your town could help.OhTheJoyshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05031731198115388411noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3294578188079385391.post-32665299874178679192007-03-05T14:31:00.000-05:002007-03-05T14:31:00.000-05:00Unfortunately, EVERYTHING is about money. It's a ...Unfortunately, EVERYTHING is about money. It's a tough situation, and a common one. I hope it all turns out with very few people disappointed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3294578188079385391.post-69479164771496371082007-03-05T13:11:00.000-05:002007-03-05T13:11:00.000-05:00Good luck in your efforts to raise the money. Per...Good luck in your efforts to raise the money. <BR/><BR/>Personally, I don't think people should give to the church to buy recognition for it KWIM? Charity is from the heart - not from the ego. No donation should be considered better than another persons. In our church, we just hold a nice dinner in appreciation for everyone. I think that is gratitude enough.Ellehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02440439321955281021noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3294578188079385391.post-46059796349833239842007-03-05T12:51:00.000-05:002007-03-05T12:51:00.000-05:00AMEN to that! Money can be the route of all evilAMEN to that! Money can be the route of all eviltkkerouachttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04401872245064752187noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3294578188079385391.post-57377805302309869522007-03-05T12:40:00.000-05:002007-03-05T12:40:00.000-05:00Wouldn't it be very "Christian" to have a plaque l...Wouldn't it be very "Christian" to have a plaque listing (alphabetically) all the people who gave something regardless of how big or small, with a statement something like, "Each of these members of the church gave something that contributed to the building of this sanctuary. One gave $75,000 and one gave an hour of his/her time, one gave $10 and another gave a month of his/her labor, but each gave as they felt able to give. This sanctuary is the result of the cooperative spirit of these people, and each one was necessary to its creation. All are equal in the eyes of the Lord."<BR/><BR/>Yeah, I'm a dreamer. ; ) I wonder if God is amused by the bickering. Nah. She probably has seen it too many times before.Judyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13070691650762969899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3294578188079385391.post-42321645847083375012007-03-05T12:10:00.000-05:002007-03-05T12:10:00.000-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Judyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13070691650762969899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3294578188079385391.post-75407910143857027182007-03-05T11:05:00.000-05:002007-03-05T11:05:00.000-05:00Seems to me that everyone's name should be on a co...Seems to me that everyone's name should be on a contributor's plaque (if you even want to HAVE one of those) in alphabetical order, regardless of what they've given. Does giving $100,000 make you more worthy than giving $10 if $10 is all you can afford? Does giving tons of money make you better than the guy who donated tons of time because he's a great carptenter or whatever?<BR/><BR/>That issue confirms once again that organized religion is not for me.Jazzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14644896022880634803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3294578188079385391.post-16718964561205924802007-03-05T10:00:00.000-05:002007-03-05T10:00:00.000-05:00True, true. I believe God wants our time, money, ...True, true. I believe God wants our time, money, sweat, hearts, brain, house, toil, detrmination.....shall I continue?-lol! <BR/>I figure He deserves it- He gave it all to us!<BR/>Obviously He doesn't need us though, just likes us to tag along!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3294578188079385391.post-35410983968249705492007-03-05T09:14:00.000-05:002007-03-05T09:14:00.000-05:00I got pegged to help with my school's capital camp...I got pegged to help with my school's capital campaign to rais money to pay for new computers. I'm the pessimist of the group. The others are thinking people are going to just break open their wallets and let the money pour out like a river. My community is hit hard with constant requests for money for schools or for the environment or something else. We are a pretty affluent community, but after awhile, people just want to scream. So we are trying to come up with incentives. If a plaque will get us what we want, we'd be happy to do it. Money is a weird thing, you're right, and some people will not donate unless their heart-felt donation is publicized. I don't care, as long as we get the funding we need.Renehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14966956368329586135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3294578188079385391.post-14712703997466295892007-03-05T08:39:00.000-05:002007-03-05T08:39:00.000-05:00Doesn't money and religion make great partners?My ...Doesn't money and religion make great partners?<BR/><BR/>My church finally finished its amazing new building about 5 years ago. IT is a true monster and I don't even want to think of the price this baby set us back.<BR/><BR/>Best thing about it? There is not place where I can find a list of donors. NO WHERE. <BR/>Now, being the good Methodists we are, I know there is a something somewhere, but it must be hidden. <BR/><BR/>I do like the idea of giving and letting the church be your reward. <BR/><BR/>Then again at my wife's church there is a giant alphabetical bronze thing that lists ALL donors by name, not by size of contribution. <BR/><BR/>Either way, money or talent is the same donation, almost. I think those who donate time and talent should get statues or paintings or something.<BR/><BR/>TVRedroachhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07988952812499435668noreply@blogger.com